For Sale : Vintage Double H (HH) 8" Leather western Packer lace up Boots for Women in size 8.5M, but be sure to measure your feet/boots! These Boots run LARGE, perhaps about 1 size. A man could also wear them in about a size 7.5 if the width was acceptable. Black with mini SW Thunderbird silver conchos. NOTE on Vintage Mule-Packer Work Boots: they are getting increasingly hard to come by (in good vintage condition) and recently even modern day manufacturers have stopped making them. Chippewa, Wesco, and White/Hathorn of Spokane still produce them and they range in cost from $325.-$800. Full Grain Uppers Removable kilties Small Thunderbird Conchos Roper toes western slant Fowler Heels Black hardware TOUGH 120 Plus tire tread outsoles Soft suede interior Spur ledge Reinforced stitching Heavy waxed cotton laces Measurement Outside Length heel to toe (along the side of the boot): 11.25" Width (across ball of foot): 3 7/8" Heel Height: 1.5" Shaft height: 8" Condition: Normal vintage age use to include: creases in the leather, scratches, rubs and dings. The bottom sole has a little wear. The leather is still quite stiff and like new. FYI You must measure your feet if you intend to buy footwear online that fits you. You can also measure a pair of your own boots but you have to match the toes/heels of the ones you intend to purchase. I cannot do this for You and I do not accept returns on footwear. Vintage boots were not ever sized like today's boots and they are all over the planet in measurements.