Item description for Very Early SPODE Pattern 341 SUCRIER with LID-c1803 George III -Rare high grade

c 1803 George III 1760-1820 (though he abdicated authority in 1811 from blindness & insanity)

FYI...Josiah Spode was the first Englishman to create a porcelain formula purported to be achieved in the late 1790's, it being a state secret of the Chinese previously. Josiah began his business around 1770 and died in 1797 which was the time span which could qualify a piece as being a SPODE I Collectible or as a SPODE II thereafter. Therefore, this sucrier is a Spode II Collectible made 6 years after his death when Josiah II was owner.

Though upon it's purchase the attached ticket to this piece with a creamer was labeled as "felspar 1815-1827", it has not been determined as such.

Correctly dating and attributing the early Spode pieces with and without pattern numbers is sometimes a labyrinth.

Pattern number 341 was dated by The Spode Trust as having been used between c1780-1790 (Spode I).

However, their archives added that patterns with a "new oval" shape were introduced in 1802 and if made from porcelain could be further dated to c1805 (Spode II).

With reference to pattern 341, Robert Copeland's book, Spode & Copeland Marks and other Relevant Intelligence, p.117, states, "Very early series recorded in un-named book, mostly neat border patterns on-glaze. (pattern)14-710 c1794 to 1800. "

This book's information was extended and further refined by him on p. 119 "(date)1803 up to (pattern) 450".

The date of this piece by pattern, shape and material is debatable amongst the experts ranging between 1780 to 1805. However, Robert Copeland narrowed it down by pattern number to 1803.

Painted Mark in red SPODE over 341

7.25" x 3.8" x 5" with lid on
Approximate dimensions

Excellent condition

Bottom of foot and lid rim is slightly rough with there being a raised dot on the inside of the lid rim.

Several tiny grayish dots in the porcelain on the inside.

No chips, cracks or repairs.

Please note: compatible form SPODE 4733 CREAMER, c 1831, also listed. If wishing to purchase together, please message with an offer after it's review. Thanks!